tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post107440287522838267..comments2023-10-19T10:08:00.241-04:00Comments on Write First, Blog Later: Viewpoint, Voice and SettingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-75984387689623190782010-08-25T10:51:00.928-04:002010-08-25T10:51:00.928-04:00Having recently published my first novel, I dealt ...Having recently published my first novel, I dealt with this issue like Christine, using two POV characters to tell the story in third. My MC is a woman, and the other POV is a man, so readers get a look at the scene through both views. Each character contributes to the setting in their own way, noticing different details so the reader gets all the info they need without slowing down pace with repetition. A woman might notice the feel of the silk dress against her bare skin and the rustle of it as she moves, but a man would notice the way it highlights her green eyes or enhances her hips and heaving bosom ;-) Another example: A woman might watch the approaching storm clouds with apprehension as she has clothes drying on the line, but a man might view those same clouds with relief, as the crops are in dire need of rain. You get the picture.Cathryn Bonicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667778670564174415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-70859898017176282932010-08-23T16:35:00.896-04:002010-08-23T16:35:00.896-04:00This is definitely tricky. I think the trick is to...This is definitely tricky. I think the trick is to pick out only a few details and somehow work those into the POV's thoughts. You cannot possibly describe an entire room but perhaps mentioning the excess gilding or marble on a fireplace and a clock (for a standard high fantasy) will give the reader the idea of wealth. <br /><br />Perhaps a man might not be able to name the exact color/material of a woman's dress but he would notice if it was silk (or wool etc) or if she was wearing jewels etc so you could pick out those details from a man's POV. Historically some things men might not notice today would be noticed in a more fantasy like setting since they marked rank, for instance certain colors, materials were reserved for nobility and high-ranking merchants especially if the dyes were scarce and/or expensive say for purple or reds.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971152197011701620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-2196898346008428122010-08-22T14:23:40.021-04:002010-08-22T14:23:40.021-04:00Thanks! Smart userid. ;o)Thanks! Smart userid. ;o)Nighfalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01745824744507928211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-61702999072895942882010-08-22T13:06:03.912-04:002010-08-22T13:06:03.912-04:00Smart blog and smart writing.Smart blog and smart writing.pseudonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03694933068747872081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-27386394528710734642010-08-21T15:43:01.642-04:002010-08-21T15:43:01.642-04:00Dawn, I am using two point-of-view characters beca...Dawn, I am using two point-of-view characters because they each see some of the action, and each have individual story lines.Nighfalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01745824744507928211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-77877501658154377422010-08-21T13:44:30.504-04:002010-08-21T13:44:30.504-04:00This is why, in fantasy and sometimes other genres...This is why, in fantasy and sometimes other genres, I don't always like the single, limited POV. I know it's preferred right now and some readers don't like dealing with more than one viewpoint, but for many fantasy novels, especially epic fantasy there is a broader scope than just what the one main character sees. Since that's what I liked to read, I'm having a hard time keeping in the one POV mode for some of my books but I guess that's what editing is for... I'll fix those unless I think the novel is better with having the unlimited (or not as strictly limited) approach.Dawn Embershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00214560861614476799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-51783759356945040582010-08-21T11:34:42.962-04:002010-08-21T11:34:42.962-04:00I agree with Will that memory idea might work, you...I agree with Will that memory idea might work, you could also try to do it with metaphors and similes. ex: "The dress was green and shiny like the mossy river in late July" I know its not exactly like what you thought about- but the idea is there, he can still express the coloring to get the point across, he just has to associate it with something, we all do it, if we see a color we recognize we associate it, maybe briefly, but we do it.Summer Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08122694893668693244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-52068703399125800042010-08-21T10:24:56.738-04:002010-08-21T10:24:56.738-04:00I'm reading George RR Martin's "Game ...I'm reading George RR Martin's "Game of Thrones." and he does it well, desribing clothes after a couple lines of dialogue, or describine setting through a POV"s vivid memory.Will Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10158149526658590324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922561838307837931.post-37394836530698217302010-08-21T10:23:11.286-04:002010-08-21T10:23:11.286-04:00I've run into this same thing. When I post an ...I've run into this same thing. When I post an excerpt from my novel I get so many comments from people saying, "I think you need to expand on this or show some detail of that", but close 3rd doesn't work that way. I can only show what the character is truly seeing or thinking. I just muddle through the best I can.Ted Crosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09022309459554237650noreply@blogger.com